"I thought they were going to call it, I thought they were going to call it goaltending,’’ said a relieved Isaac after his Magic notched their fourth straight victory – this one a gritty 93-87 defeat of Cleveland. "I just tried to get (Thompson’s hook shot) at its highest point, and they gave it to me. I think the refs are starting to let me slide a little bit and I like it.’’It probably won't be very long before Isaac will be able to run rampant as a full-blown terror on the defensive end, and combined with his decent ancillary offensive numbers as a tertiary scorer / potential floor-spacer (12.0 PPG, 2.8 3PA, 33 3P%), Jonathan is already a truly indispensable part of the Magic rotation for the foreseeable future.
Wood is trusting his teammates more on both sides of the ball. He’s not forcing things on offense... Wood is scoring by giving the ball up and trusting it will come back to him when he’s open instead of constantly hunting for his own shot.Wood doesn't demand touches and is highly efficient in his role, something that will let him scale well on good offenses, something that bodes well for his future as a Piston but also makes him an attractive addition for a playoff side - he's an unrestricted free-agent this summer. If he carries or builds upon this level of production into next season, he'll easily be a Most Improved Player contender with All-Star potential.
The fact that Jackson can take and make so many different kinds of threes enables the Grizzlies to deploy him in so many different spots on the court. He has no obvious sweet spot, which means there’s rarely a worry he’ll catch the ball somewhere he doesn’t belong. He can toggle between playmaker, primary scorer, screener, and floor spacer, depending on what the Grizzlies need at that particular moment.Well, overplaying JJJ's shooting is unwise - he possesses a decent handle for a big (relatively few turnovers considering he drives quite often) and is excellent at attacking closeouts and finishing at in the paint (65 FG% in restricted area). Some of his long strides and wrong-footed finishes bring to mind Pascal Siakam. His post scoring is well below-average (26th percentile), his ISO scoring is decent (65th percentile), and his shooting in the non-restricted area of the paint (floaters and such) isn't anything to write home about (39.5 FG%). Interestingly, he rarely takes midrange shots, with a James Harden-esque 16 midrange attempts over the entire season.
Better yet, he can do all four within the same play, which ensures Memphis’ sets always have secondary options. A pick-and-pop that the defense covers effectively can quickly swing into a dribble handoff, post-up, or second-side screening action, and it’s difficult for the defense to peg exactly where Jackson fits in to those sequences. In an instant, he’s flipped from the big man screener that gets a guard open into the primary option on a flare screen to get him a three.
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And if that shot isn’t there, he can quickly flow back into being a screener for a guard curling up from the corner.
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Or — and this is spicy — he can invert the traditional big/guard setup and act as the ball-handler immediately.
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On the night Kris Dunn suffered a knee injury that will likely end his season, I sat by his locker to chat about defense. Considering no guard in the NBA has been better at it this season, the topic made sense.
We talked about... The dark arts that go into learning his opponent’s specific tendencies:
“A lot of guys who are righties like to go left to be able to get to their jump shot, and a lot of people who are righties like to go downhill to their right side. But if you’re a righty, most likely you like to go left. I just feel like you just have, you know, more in your bag of tricks going left. If you’re a lefty, most of the time they like going right. It’s just how they do it.
I like to break down to see what’s their go-to move. Some people when they come down the court, if they have the ball in their left hand, they’re getting ready to shoot. If they have the ball in their right hand, they’re ready to drive.”
... And player comparisons:
“I feel like Tony Allen, he just fits what I do. He’ll pounce on you. He was strong, physical. I think he could guard 1 through 3, even fours. I feel like I can guard some fours sometimes. I feel like that’s a good comparison because he’s got that dog, he’s got that bloodhound in him.”
Dunn’s season-long defensive impact was, to be frank, spectacular. He thrived in Jim Boylen’s tight-rope-walk of a defensive scheme, torpedoing passing lanes, living in his man’s jersey, and never giving up on a possession.
For most defenders, including Dunn, a majority of his defensive possessions are spent off the ball, and it’s here where his knowledge, instincts, and timing swirl up into a typhoon that the offense then has to navigate.
“He’s an all-defensive defender if I’ve ever seen one, and I’ve seen a few of them,” Boylen said right before the injury. “Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. He’s an All-Defensive guy.”
He already has developed chemistry with two very different dance partners in Ivica Zubac and Montrezl Harrell. Zubac is more laborious, and so Leonard navigates with zigzaggy, start-and-stop patience until Zubac rumbles free: clipHis passing leap shows up on film, too, where he rarely looks lost anymore, knowing where his teammates are at all times, but it also shows up in the numbers: easily a career-high 5.0 assists/game (previous high was 3.3 in 2017), 27.0 AST% (previous high 18.9% in 2017).
Harrell can zip to the rim or mirror Leonard's pitter-pat. Harrell also is a master at re-screening at different angles, and Leonard is learning to bob and weave behind him -- and use the threat of a handoff to slice backdoor: clip
Deck | HP | DEF | RES | Crit Ch | Crit Dmg | Fast Act | Heal | +dmg | -dmg |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1P | 2379 | 129 | 134 | - | 15% | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
1H | 2379 | 129 | 134 | - | 10% | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
1M | 2776 | 129 | 134 | - | - | 10% | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2P | 2379 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2H | 2379 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2M | 2379 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
3H | 1619 | 161 | 164 | - | - | - | - | 27-56% | 8-22% |
HC (Lv 80) | 1552 | 121 | 121 | 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% | 28-47% | 8-24% |
HC (Lv 90) | 1809 | 152 | 152 | 9% | 9% | 9% | 9% | 29-51% | 9-26% |
HC (Lv 99) | 2072 | 173 | 173 | 10% | 10% | 10% | 10% | 30-56% | 10-28% |
Deck | ATK | MAG |
---|---|---|
1P | 350 | 149 |
1H | 288 | 339 |
1M | 155 | 339 |
2P | 350 | 149 |
2H | 288 | 279 |
2M | 155 | 339 |
3H | 190 | 289 |
HC (Lv 80) | 146 | 146 |
HC (Lv 90) | 182 | 182 |
HC (Lv 99) | 208 | 208 |
Scenario | Modifier | 800 Stat | 1000 Stat | 1200 Stat |
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+0%, full break | 30% | 240 | 300 | 360 |
+30%, full break | 39% | 312 | 390 | 468 |
+50%, full break | 45% | 360 | 450 | 540 |
+69%, full break | 51% | 406 | 507 | 612 |
+95%, full break | 59% | 468 | 585 | 702 |
+0%, TyrOSB | 115% | 920 | 1150 | 1380 |
+30%, TyrOSB | 150% | 1196 | 1495 | 1794 |
+50%, TyrOSB | 173% | 1380 | 1725 | 2070 |
+69%, TyrOSB | 194% | 1555 | 1944 | 2332 |
+95%, TyrOSB | 224% | 1794 | 2242 | 2691 |
Deck | HP | ATK | MAG | DEF | RES | Crit Ch | Crit Dmg | Fast Act | Heal | +dmg | -dmg |
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1P | 2379 | 350 | 149 | 129 | 134 | - | 15% | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
1H | 2379 | 288 | 339 | 129 | 134 | - | 10% | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
1M | 2776 | 155 | 339 | 129 | 134 | - | - | 10% | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2P | 2379 | 350 | 149 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2H | 2379 | 288 | 279 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
2M | 2379 | 155 | 339 | 129 | 134 | - | - | - | 15% | 27-56% | 8-22% |
3H | 1619 | 190 | 289 | 161 | 164 | - | - | - | - | 27-56% | 8-22% |
HC (Lv 80) | 1552 | 146 | 146 | 121 | 121 | 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% | 28-47% | 8-24% |
HC (Lv 90) | 1809 | 182 | 182 | 152 | 152 | 9% | 9% | 9% | 9% | 29-51% | 9-26% |
HC (Lv 99) | 2072 | 208 | 208 | 173 | 173 | 10% | 10% | 10% | 10% | 30-56% | 10-28% |
Arte | Modifier | Hits | Type | Cooldown | Effect |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Crossweave | 130% | 2 | ST | 2 turns | 100% Chance to Decrease 10% ATK for 2 Turns |
Thunderbolt Stitch | 160% | 8 | ST | 4 turns | 100% Chance to Decrease 10% DEFfor 2 Turns |
Normal Attack | 100% | 2 | ST | - | - |
![]() | With the addition of my last (real) post that was about Warfarin (WFR), we now have enough details to fully take on the question people asked many moons ago and even now. Who is better at buffing their allies? And since it’s always depends, then when and why do each bested the other? In this post I will trying my best to justify all of the possible comparison and rig it in a way so that Sora win………what submitted by Windgesang_ to arknights [link] [comments] Terrible banner below Horrendous photoshop skills confirmed To read more about them, I have made dedicated post for each. You can read more about Warfarin and Sora there. Anyway, first thing first. We can get the general stuff out of the way. Stats, and all of the miscellaneous sh…enanigans. And to do that, we need to lay out the assumptions. AssumptionsFor all numbers used for comparing purposes, we will be talking in E2 Lv30 with full trusts and pot 1 for all parties involved, since it’s a typical stopping range. WFR and Sora’s respective S1 will be compare at level 7. However, for their respective S2, we will be comparing them at M3 for most of the time, since the purpose of this post is to mainly compare buffs and shit, that and I don’t think anyone actually M3 their S1.For that assumption, WFR’s stats would be: 1424 HP, 516 ATK, 109 DEF, 19 costs, 2.85s attack interval, and 0 RES. Sora’s stats would be: 1141 HP, 349 ATK, 228 DEF, 7 costs, no interval, and 0 RES. And if anyone get dragged in the example later on will probably just get calculated later. Quick table for summaries
- The class classification is not going to be important… most of the time, however, when we’re talking hard content options, Medics tends to get a worse treatment compare to Supporters. In CM or CC with different risks, Medics do get banned specifically when it’s due, whereas Supporters usually don’t (except for 2-2 CM, and some future CC maps). Maps that has a certain inhibition (ban, x3 costs…) to Medics are more often seen than map that inhibit Supporters, is what I’m saying. - Their healing power is also drastically different. WFR is a single target medic (which does get higher ATK to compensate), whereas Sora, first of isn’t even a healer, second, she heals in an AoE. Even AoE medics can only heal 3 allies at once, but Sora? She sings away, restoring HP to up to 12 allies in her range, plus herself. That’s actually enough for a whole squad + support unit, when WFR can only fit 12 people in her range including herself. Although, good luck finding a map that does allow you to do that (and even in AF-8, you still face the deployment limit of 9). For a quick number comparison, WFR heals 516 HP every 2.85s to one ally, as in 181 HP/s (or HPS I guess) to only 1 person. Sora in comparison get 34.9 HPS but to all ally. The breakpoint then is 181/34.9 = 5.19 → 6 allies before WFR’s heals become worse than Sora’s. That’s actually pretty hard to do, which means Sora will lose to WFR when it comes to healing, hey wait a minute Sora isn’t even a medic though, so that’s pretty natural. There is a silver lining, because Sora doesn’t necessary “heal”, she can restore HP to unhealable target. That means she can heal Hellagur, Vulcan, Utage, all summons, including Magellan’s Soaring Dragons, Mayer’s Meeboos, Deepcolor’s Tentacle, Nightingale’s Phantom, and of course any future addition of these type of units. But wait, there’s more in chapter 6. With the appearance of chill and frozen debuff, the healing rate of WFR can get shafted. Sora healing rate does not get affected by attack rate reduction, or heck even stun or frozen, so for those case, Sora can have an easy time healing whereas WFR wouldn’t, even if Sora’s healing is bad. Except… - Sora’s range is far worse than WFR’s. Even if Sora can heal while stunned/frozen, her reach to allies is worse. At most Sora can only heal allies 2 tiles away from her, whereas WFR can reach up to 4 tiles ahead of her (though she can’t reach 2 tiles from her side nor behind). This allows WFR to have a little bit more flexibility in deployment location. - Their HP are also not that high, WFR’s 1424 HP vs Sora’s 1141. Sora's HP loses out by quite a lot, but Sora’s DEF doubled WFR’s, 228 vs 109. Considering both has 0 RES, that means Sora’s pretty good at surviving physical damage, whereas WFR is better at surviving magical damage. Though of course, none should be primarily used to tank ranged attack, unless the enemies’ ranged attacks are much weaker compare to the melee, so you can choose to alleviate some of the pressure off your melee operators, but then you have to divide your healing to more people, which actually is something that Sora needs to catch up to WFR’s HPS. - Sora cost way less than WFR, to basically compensate for what she couldn’t compete against WFR. If you remember from my Sora post, her cost is the lowest in the game bar the robots (and Gravel full pot pfff). - Their base skills fill different roles…I wouldn’t say much here since it’s not the focus of this post nor is there any real way to compare them. WFR trains other medics faster, Sora supports her fans and M O N E Y. - Both of their skills can support their allies. If you haven’t noticed it yet though, both of Sora and WFR’s skills are similar. Their first skill causes a large heal, and their second skill increases ally’s ATK (Sora’s first skill has something else but shhhh). WFR then, win this comparison because she has her talent that grants SP to ally in her range whenever an enemy die in her range. More SP means faster skill charge rate, which lead to more damage overall from operators, and more SP also allows WFR to use her skills faster, which lead to more support than Sora. That’s a bit too much for general comparison. Let’s go a little bit more into specific skills comparison. Showdown: First skillSick Microsoft Paint skillsI'm not going to full details of what each skill does again, but to summarize: WFR’s first skill heal an ally that is under 50% HP for an additional 19% of their max HP. So basically for WFR’s next heal, she heals for 516 + 19% of the healed ally’s max HP. Sora’s first skill on the other hand, expands her normal range and increase her regen much further. Sora’s new range is equal to Saria’s S2 healing range, and her regeneration is now 349 * 70% = 244.3 HPS (it’s going to be 349 if you decided to M3 this skill but what psycho actually do that itwasajokecalmdown). Strictly for healing (and assuming WFR’s S1 activated constantly), these skills now change their respective HPS. WFR’s HPS is now (516 + 19% of the ally’s max HP) / 2.85 = (181 + 6.6666% of ally max HP) HP/s. The % number looks fishy, it’s like they intentionally let the 19% there :thonkang: Anyway, the new break point between them is now 244.3 = 181 + 6.6666% max HP, with that max HP is (oh god I spent 4 years studied engineer in university to do gaming math) 949.5 max HP. Very few operators have that low max HP to begin with, except for maybe Haze, 1-2* ops, some 3* ops, and CC risks. If you tiptoe the heal between 2 allies, that increase the max HP limit to 244.3 = (181 + 6.6666% maxHP)/2, which lead to the new needed max HP to…4614. That’s… really bad for WFR now. As soon as WFR needs to heal 2 allies or more, she loses to Sora’s. Wait a minute, there’s this small part in my WFR’s post (which was pointed out by a commenter actually) that WFR’s S1 reset her healing animation (it wouldn’t cause her healing to be continuous though) between 2 allies so WFR win out again. If you have a third ally (or more), however, Sora wins with her S1 active. When we hit 3 or more allies that need strong healing at once, The utility of Sora’s phase shifting all enemies in her range can also be important. In my old Sora’s post, I stated that this skill is perfect for reset when things go wrong. She can guarantee healing while stopping enemies from doing the thing that force your operators to need healing to begin with. It’s a bit hard to quantify in numbers but keep that in mind for general usage. HOWEVER, unlike WFR’s S1, a skill that is perfect to buy time for your allies with massive healing, Sora’s S1 completely phase them out, not allowing them to cause harm or be harmed. This is bad because WFR’s skill does not do that, which means you can eliminate this threat even before her 3 charges is used up. Where for Sora’s case, after her skill is over, she loses her massive healing rate, while the enemy that cause the need for a massive heal is still there because you couldn’t kill him when this skill is up. This is the thing I said back in her post, that this skill can be used to buy enough time for round 2, and one thing I only slightly implied was that, if your ops lose this round 2, there’s no comeback. Which lead to another thing, because Sora isn’t a bona fide healer, in order to use Sora in the field, you’re basically forced to bring an actual medic first, which will cost you an additional deploy limit. Or, you can use Saria along with her (personally duped as the Soaria combo), who already more than enough filled the role of a medic. As in, Saria alone sometime couldn’t fulfill completely the entire role of a medic, but if you add Sora, they both would (unintentional Sora’s S2 showcase). The change in Sora’s range can swing the comparison as well, but then, it’s apple and orange, as WFR has a long frontal reach, while Sora has large surrounding reach, which including behind her. It does allow Sora to reach her allies easier, but it’s something that WFR can already done most of the time. One last thing is that Sora’s skill has a really terrible duration, with a terrible cooldown, even if her talent activated, when compare to WFR’s S1. 60SP to use for only 7 seconds is a huge downside, but for that strong effect, it may seem like a balanced(?) decision. And with that comes the knock out attack from WFR, because Sora’s skill is a “use once, go recharge” type of skill, while WFR can hold 3 charges, it means that WFR’s can just use 1 or 2 charges and be fine. What that signify is that Sora need to fully commit her skill to perform whatever role she needs of that skill, while because WFR’s can store 3 charges This has been pointed out many times before, but that just mean Sora isn’t meant to be a healer, which according to the game she already is not. But she could catch up in a few scenarios, one being hardcore AoE heal, the other being countering attack speed debuff (whether it’s an actual attack speed debuff, or just stunned or frozen, which results in attack rate become 0). Well, now we’re at the section that is the reason why this post was made Showdown: Second skillMore sick Paint skillThe question has been asked many times.>! I also asked myself many times “Was it worth it to S2M3 both of their skills?” The answer is heck yea!<. But jokes aside, between the two, when will each do better? I will attempt to justify as most cases as possible, except for the few most specific lineups that mainly exists for memes. Now you may say we only buff allies when we do meme, but nobody made that the rule. Believe it or not, you can unironically use buffer (no plural though, because even that’s meme territory even for me) for normal run. With how strong WFR’s normal healing is due to her high ATK, you can actually use her S2 for runs that never require a strong healing. WFR is perfect for adding just the minimum required healing while providing more to the team with her SP and ATK boost. First off, WFR always beat Sora with her SP granting talent, so we’ll stop mention that for the rest of this post. WFR’s talent is more consistent (50% from Sora is still quite reliable, but as soon as it doesn’t work once, you’ll remember it), and it can also help allies. Second off, ally operators who have high attack speed, multi hits, multi targets, AoE, and high skill multipliers all works really well with their buff. But since those thing works for both WFR and Sora’s skill, there’s no winning here. Just remember that those things work amazing with these attack buffs. Third off, back to 3 points ago. Because WFR can heal and buff at the same, she can transcend from her Fourt…nvm I’m getting tired of this. Next, we’ll go further on how much each skill increases their allies’s ATK. There’s our main discrepancy between the 2 buffs, because one increases a flat number of ATK to allies, while the other increases a percentage of damage to an ally. Sora basically give an additional 349 ATK to everyone in her range, while WFR increases their ATK by an additional 90% of their base. This is also worth mentioning again because these ATK buffs only stack additively, not multiplicatively. Anyway, so the break-even point is pretty clear, any operators whose 349 is 90% of their ATK value. That is basically any operator at 387.(7) ATK, which is pretty low. Very few operators have lower damage, and those that do don’t do DPS role (Defenders, Robots, Medics…) except Ranger. Ranger with Sora buff will destroy enemies…or just drones idk. The turnaround is of course not on 1 ally, but more. If Sora can only boost about 45% of her allies’ damage, then boosting 2 allies is enough to compromise using her instead of WFR who boost for 90% to one ally, 30% with 3, and so on. The more allies Sora boosts, the more she leaves WFR in the dusts. This is actually even better because of 2 reasons. First is again the total % boost of Sora’s buff for multiple allies, the more allies in her range, the better her buff becomes. Second is about the same setup but for healing, since Sora needs more allies to catch up with WFR's healing, and since WFR is mainly use as a healer, you’d need to put your allies in WFR’s range as well. If you do that, then her HPS reduced and the RNG start to affect your buff. The more allies need WFR’s heal, the less consistent her buff become while Sora gain many many chance to catch up. But WFR won’t go down without a fight, I already devised a way to work around her RNGesus back in her highlights post. Essentially, you can work around the selection of the buff simply by having a win-win situation, instead of putting Cuora in her range, put a strong AoE guard instead, to the point where whoever it randomed to, it’s not a bad choice at all. An extreme form of that strat is to put only 1 person in WFR’s range, which is what most people would default to. That is not wrong, but that would also mean you’re removing her normal role, aka medic, and also because of how large WFR’s range is, in order to have only 1 person in her range, a large area need to be cleared out, OR, if you have WFR face a different angle, then her talent would start to not function properly. Regardless, controlling WFR’s buff can be easy, however it is limiting at time. There’s also the fact that WFR actually buff 2 persons, not just 1. WFR always buff herself first and foremost. Sora for some reason doesn’t do that. Because the ATK buff is determined before her skill actually start and stay there for the whole duration, i.e. if Sora has an amount of ATK at the time she uses this skill and then getting more (or less) ATK while the skill is already running, the ATK buff wouldn’t change. With that condition in mind, I think Sora S2 could buff herself, effectively x2 her healing during the skill with nothing else change. Though it will still not be that good for healing, it’s still better. Anyway, WFR buffs herself during this skill, which means WFR heals for much stronger during it. That can mean you don’t necessarily need her first skill if you only need it for a certain strong and threatening enemy that only comes periodically. Again, the fact that WFR is a strong medic is helping massively in this buffing war, which has nothing to do with healing lel. But the buff does affect WFR herself, which means Sora need double the amount of ally needed to match up with WFR again. Strictly for buffing allies though, Sora can still easily outbuff WFR. Sora does have a different approach to buffing comparing to WFR. When I said about making a formation that WFR wouldn’t buff any one that you don’t want, it’s kinda implied that all of them will be DPS because WFR’s buff only target one person and they should generally be DPS, which means that all that are in WFR’s range can deal strong damage. Remember an argument back in their healing skill? That Sora have to all in her skill to heal? Well joke’s on WFR now because she’s the one all in her buff. Sora can buff anything in her range, no discrimination. That means she can buff Defenders, Supporters, Specialists, Medics while also buffing any DPS in her range. That results in the fact that you can now have a stronger heal output as well as the fact that you don’t have to ignore any low DPS allies in her range like WFR would. AND, the fact that Sora’s buff works better the lower your ally’s attack are. As a result of all those little tidbits, what Sora can do is to boost the effectiveness of everyone in her range, regardless of their role. Whereas, for WFR, because of the all-in nature of her buff, you’d almost want to boost a strong DPS instead, like, would you want to use WFR’s buff on a medic? (just for funsies I once full buff Perfumer and when her S2M3 is active she got about 78 HPS regen globally) Yes I M3'd Perfumer's S2 As for how long these buffs last, WFR’s only lasts 15s, whereas Sora’s lasts for double that. This may matter when their respective cooldown is different, as well as the talent that is functionally different as well. Because WFR’s talent always affect herself, it’s more reliable than Sora’s talent who only works 50% of the time. Their respective recharge rate would probably be hard to quantify, as one requires the luck of the draw, and one require enemies’ death. So Sora’s buff lasts twice as long as WFR’s, which could work better for a longer fight period, but if it’s a long fight period, there’s also the chance for WFR’s to reset her skill again with her talent, which means it's kinda a draw. Let’s see, what else do we have… The rest are just small little advantages. Sora has more DEF and lower cost, which means she’s good for early physical ranged unit bait (or if you’re a madman like me, AF-5 and AF-8, or against stun snipers in OF, she can hold her ground quite fine). The smaller tidbits like Sora constantly heal regardless of any attack rate affliction mentioned earlier, which is fine against attack speed debuff and stuns, BUT, it also works against attack speed buffs (Angelina, Silence, Aak…), so you win some, you lose some. There’s something quite important to note though, is that no dumbass actually M3 any of these 2 abilities, at least before they have a strong roster normally (the classic “DPS over Enablers” argument). So, how about we assume just normal skill level 7 instead? The only argument that would change is the buff damage and the break-even point after all. Assuming E1 Lv50, we’ll have WFR with only 60% ATK buff, and Sora with 90% of her ATK. From just that, you can already see a huge jump from SL7 to M3 for WFR’s buff, but barely any improvement for Sora’s, the only other improvement for Sora’s M3 is an additional 10s to her skill, which is quite a lot, from 20s at Lv7 to 30s at M3. With that said, the priority to M3 Sora’s skill is mainly to increase duration, not for more buff power. However, Sora at this level has 308 ATK, which translates to 277.2 ATK to allies. The breakpoint with WFR however, becomes 462 ATK. That raises the ceiling to those that Sora can buff better than WFR could by quite a margin, AND, it’s still 5s longer than WFR’s, AND, that's just for one person. What to draw from that is, Sora is really strong for boosting in the early game, with only a little bit of investment for both her and your other operators, as she is better the lower your allies' ATK are, while WFR is slower in the early game (except for the healing, which carried the argument again), but a far better ceiling cap in later parts of the game. But then again, in the early game, Sora will find it harder to win the "just bring another DPS" argument, so even if her buffs are better, her heals are worse, and the resources to get her to at least skill level 7 with a decent level can be put for another DPS and do the job at least equally to her. Summary (?)Anyway, here’s some conclusions. WFR wins the talent support, raw single target buff, stronger heal during buff, but all-in one-person buffing, and limited operators’ role in range. Sora has the stronger total buff the more people she buffs but the potency per person depends on their ATK value, less potent range, less utility outside of buff but no discriminating buff, work less effective than her counterpart when there’s more enemies you need to fight, or when RNGesus abandoned you. Sora can buff slightly better with lower investments (both herself and allies) but have lower ceiling cap. Again, it’s always important to note that the fact that WFR can fill 2 roles, Medic and Supporter, mainly carried her entire arguments against her opponent. Sora cannot solo heal any map, and therefore strictly limited her role to only Supporter, even if you use Sora’s S1, then she now has a strong heal, but with a terrible cooldown for a low duration, so it still can’t be used for solo healing. Her last usage of S1 is to stop the enemies, which WFR could never do. But then again, if Sora need her S1, then she can’t use her S2 to buff allies, while for WFR case, she can still use S2 and still have strong healing, as a result of how her skills works. Anyway, how was this post? Hopefully nothing biased nor rigged…maybe. What's your takes/arguments on this, assuming only between them and not "just add another DPS"? I'll edit the post if it's a great argument that I glossed over or forgot about or just didn't know As for my other writing series, I’m still thinking about a candidate for the next one, maybe between Glaucus, Platinum, Cliffheart, Skyfire(?), or Shirayuki I guess (I'm still trying to find Swire smh). A bit effy with things now as I need to escape unemployment, but I also need actual motivation (okay maybe poverty is a good motivation I guess). Hope to see you guys next week. |
"I thought they were going to call it, I thought they were going to call it goaltending,’’ said a relieved Isaac after his Magic notched their fourth straight victory – this one a gritty 93-87 defeat of Cleveland. "I just tried to get (Thompson’s hook shot) at its highest point, and they gave it to me. I think the refs are starting to let me slide a little bit and I like it.’’It probably won't be very long before Isaac will be able to run rampant as a full-blown terror on the defensive end, and combined with his decent ancillary offensive numbers as a tertiary scorer / potential floor-spacer (12.0 PPG, 2.8 3PA, 33 3P%), Jonathan is already a truly indispensable part of the Magic rotation for the foreseeable future.
Wood is trusting his teammates more on both sides of the ball. He’s not forcing things on offense... Wood is scoring by giving the ball up and trusting it will come back to him when he’s open instead of constantly hunting for his own shot.Wood doesn't demand touches and is highly efficient in his role, something that will let him scale well on good offenses, something that bodes well for his future as a Piston but also makes him an attractive addition for a playoff side - he's an unrestricted free-agent this summer. If he carries or builds upon this level of production into next season, he'll easily be a Most Improved Player contender with All-Star potential.
The fact that Jackson can take and make so many different kinds of threes enables the Grizzlies to deploy him in so many different spots on the court. He has no obvious sweet spot, which means there’s rarely a worry he’ll catch the ball somewhere he doesn’t belong. He can toggle between playmaker, primary scorer, screener, and floor spacer, depending on what the Grizzlies need at that particular moment.Well, overplaying JJJ's shooting is unwise - he possesses a decent handle for a big (relatively few turnovers considering he drives quite often) and is excellent at attacking closeouts and finishing at in the paint (65 FG% in restricted area). Some of his long strides and wrong-footed finishes bring to mind Pascal Siakam. His post scoring is well below-average (26th percentile), his ISO scoring is decent (65th percentile), and his shooting in the non-restricted area of the paint (floaters and such) isn't anything to write home about (39.5 FG%). Interestingly, he rarely takes midrange shots, attempting a James Harden-esque 16 midrange attempts over the entire season.
Better yet, he can do all four within the same play, which ensures Memphis’ sets always have secondary options. A pick-and-pop that the defense covers effectively can quickly swing into a dribble handoff, post-up, or second-side screening action, and it’s difficult for the defense to peg exactly where Jackson fits in to those sequences. In an instant, he’s flipped from the big man screener that gets a guard open into the primary option on a flare screen to get him a three.
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And if that shot isn’t there, he can quickly flow back into being a screener for a guard curling up from the corner.
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Or — and this is spicy — he can invert the traditional big/guard setup and act as the ball-handler immediately.
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On the night Kris Dunn suffered a knee injury that will likely end his season, I sat by his locker to chat about defense. Considering no guard in the NBA has been better at it this season, the topic made sense.
We talked about... The dark arts that go into learning his opponent’s specific tendencies:
“A lot of guys who are righties like to go left to be able to get to their jump shot, and a lot of people who are righties like to go downhill to their right side. But if you’re a righty, most likely you like to go left. I just feel like you just have, you know, more in your bag of tricks going left. If you’re a lefty, most of the time they like going right. It’s just how they do it.
I like to break down to see what’s their go-to move. Some people when they come down the court, if they have the ball in their left hand, they’re getting ready to shoot. If they have the ball in their right hand, they’re ready to drive.”
... And player comparisons:
“I feel like Tony Allen, he just fits what I do. He’ll pounce on you. He was strong, physical. I think he could guard 1 through 3, even fours. I feel like I can guard some fours sometimes. I feel like that’s a good comparison because he’s got that dog, he’s got that bloodhound in him.”
Dunn’s season-long defensive impact was, to be frank, spectacular. He thrived in Jim Boylen’s tight-rope-walk of a defensive scheme, torpedoing passing lanes, living in his man’s jersey, and never giving up on a possession.
For most defenders, including Dunn, a majority of his defensive possessions are spent off the ball, and it’s here where his knowledge, instincts, and timing swirl up into a typhoon that the offense then has to navigate.
“He’s an all-defensive defender if I’ve ever seen one, and I’ve seen a few of them,” Boylen said right before the injury. “Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. He’s an All-Defensive guy.”
He already has developed chemistry with two very different dance partners in Ivica Zubac and Montrezl Harrell. Zubac is more laborious, and so Leonard navigates with zigzaggy, start-and-stop patience until Zubac rumbles free: clipHis passing leap shows up on film, too, where he rarely looks lost anymore, knowing where his teammates are at all times, but it also shows up in the numbers: easily a career-high 5.0 assists/game (previous high was 3.3 in 2017), 27.0 AST% (previous high 18.9% in 2017).
Harrell can zip to the rim or mirror Leonard's pitter-pat. Harrell also is a master at re-screening at different angles, and Leonard is learning to bob and weave behind him -- and use the threat of a handoff to slice backdoor: clip
“I like Dragan Bender, Luka Doncic and Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk as future prospects. Not superstar level obviously but ones to watch out for imo. Svi played at Kansas this year as a 17 year old”.Link
“Not to rain on your parade or anything, but calling [Dzanan Musa] 2nd most talented all the while not mentioning Luka Doncic is bullshit. You know, the guy who is playing for Real Madrid's first team at 16 and was busy training with Noah, the Gasol bros and Rudy Fernandez during the summer. P.S. not to take anything from Musa, he had a great tourney, but most of his main competition didnt even play.”Link
“I only watched Dragan play in youth categories and a little bit with Maccabi since he joined first team only this year. He is 17 (maybe 18, he was born in 1997 so I think he turned 18 already) and with little experience. But talent is there. He can shoot threes, pass and penetrate. He is freaking tall as well. He is also very raw and he looks really thin so he will need to work on that. But he is still a kid, I hope he doesn't go to draft this year (and then goes to NBA) because he needs at least one more year with Maccabi's first team.Link
He is playing well at Maccabi when given a chance (but nothing spectaculae really) but his minutes don't go over 10-15 min. I didn't watch their games a lot but they aren't very good this year and already fired their coach (another Croat is HC there now, Žan Tabak, I think he was in NBA as well but I am not sure as I am on mobile now,but if he is, I am sure he will prepare him properly).
Anyhow, Croatia, well whole ex-Yu area, is filled with talents. Just write Dragan Bender, Luka Doncic, Dzanan Musa, Amte Zizic in youtube and you will see what I mean.
No worries, you're welcome.Link
Marko Pecarski is a good example of someone like Dragan Bender. Dominate at youth level in Europe but neither of them have the skills to succeed in the NBA.
Pecarski just averaged 35 points 15 rebounds in the FIBA European U16 tournament this week for Serbia. Had the most impressive tournament averages since Ricky Rubio. He looks dominant and they list him as the best talent in the 2000 generation, but he is shit. I don't like him at all. I think he is overrated. He is just physically superior to everyone. But once he reaches senior level, he will be a nobody.
I say the same for Luka Doncic. Overrated. Maybe he will be good if he stays in Europe. If he goes to the NBA, he will fail.
“Right now [Doncic] is #1 in 2018 for me. A 6'9" 17 year-old who can run the point for one of the biggest teams in the 2nd most competitive league in the world? Yeah, even though I like Ayton, no high schooler is even near his level yet.Link
This is why I don't think the Spurs have a chance to get him. Unless Aldrige, Kawhi, Parker, Pau, Ginobili and Mills all get injured next season, they won't be bad enough to get him in the draft.
I'd love to see him on the Nuggets, he has the size to play the 3 and imagine the damage a core of Mudiay - Murray - Doncic - 2017 pick (Jackson, Isaac, Rabb, Giles?) - Jokic could be doing in this league.”
“If the influx of international players doesn't decrease, it will only be seen as the beginning rather than a golden age.Link
Edit: More top international guys to look out for: Frank Ntilikina, Isaiah Hartenstein, Lauri Markkannen, Kostja Mushidi, Omer Yurtseven, Jonathan Jeanne, Luka Doncic, Felipe Dos Anjos, Rodions Kurucs, Isaac Bonga, Sekou Doumbouya, RJ Barrett”
Not exactly. The European ball isn't fair to young players either. But since the field is larger, the truly good young guys that are able to get minutes and production will have the chance to play against tougher competition. That is great for the development of said players. Just look at what Doncic is doing right now. It's insane what he is doing for someone his age. He's 17 years old playing 20 minutes in one of the best teams in Europe, on the second best league in the world and he's giving great production. Again, the kid is only 17! It's insane what he's doing and the amount of polish for his age that he's showing.Link
Suns need to keep losing and land into a top 3 pick. Ayton Doncic or Bagley. If selecting 4th, get Trae Young.Link
This is late, but man....Doncic could be amazing. High ceiling, medium-low floor though if you're picking at 1 or 2. A jumbo Manu/Harden hybrid at his peak or Gallinari at the low end. From what i've been reading is that Bagley is kind of a out of place tweener, and Ayton is a little rigid and has somewhat slippery hands. But Ayton def has a high floor, like at worst he's Andre Drummond.Link
Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, Porter, YoungLink
Maybe if [Lebron’s] 26 you’re trying to lock him up for 5+ years. But handicapping yourself by giving up the chances at another potentially generational talent, like Doncic/MJP/Bagley/Ayton/Bamba just to marginally increase your chances at a few more years of LeBron who’s gonna be 33? I think it’s irresponsible unless it’s a great trade. Giving up that top pick for a player who could with leave after 4 months, leaving you a roster of solely Kevin Love is not a good place to be in.Link
[JJJ’s] strengths being a bunch of shaky small sample college basketball advanced stats is not convincing to me.Link
I think Doncic is the best player in the draft and I'd take him #1. I think JJJ has an argument for #2 based on having a relatively high floor and two important translatable skills in his shooting and defense, but Ayton's potential seriously outweighs that. And Ayton's floor is higher than I've seen some suggest
If you've watched Doncic play recently you wouldn't be saying that. He's shooting 30% for the season from a shorter 3 point line, and his isolation game on offense struggles badly against athletic players.Link
Euroleague play just seems to be no indicator of NBA success/failure in either direction.Link.
Doncic absolutely has high bust potential, as do all Euroleague players. But he's still going very high in the draft based on his potential.
I have watched [Luka], he is unathletic in the NBA sense. He has few moves to create separation and has a bad first step. He shooting has been bad and he needs screens to make something happen and the worst of his issues he got marked by Jordan freaking McRae who was our worst defender. I don’t care about his defense, even if he sucks as we expect him to, he can be hidden like many players.link
I have watched him and I cant see why people want him. You can call my comment ignorant, but its the most realistic comment in this thread. Kris Dunn is a more athletic version of Luka and he has problems on the NBA level. Keep it real with yourself the main reason people are aching so hard for him to succeed is because of his skin color. He is not more talented than any other player at his position. He isnt a freak of nature like Ayton. He cant shoot like jimmer Freddette, remember him? He was another one of the white boys that was supposed to take over the league. It didnt happen.Link.
His father said Luka has enough potential to one day finish his career on the same godly level as Jordan, Lebron,... He makes sure Luka doesn't think about those things and has MANY years of really hard work ahead but that he's actually capable of it.
It was an interesting thought for a kid from Slovenia but it became clear really fast that it was just heavy parent bias talking. Luka seems pretty good but since his breakthrough last season he hasn't developed as much as you'd think he would.
If he wants to play in the NBA he'll have to start making noise during the pros because right now it's mostly that "this kid is really good for being only 17". We've seen quite a few talents stretch that kind of game well into their 30s and a once bright talent turned out his ceiling came before he could even buy alcohol legaly.
For our little Slovenia it would be perfect if Dragić passed the torch to him but Luka really has so much to do before even thinking of NBA days.
I'm glad that he shows passion and will to prove himself, I always notice how frustrated he gets if he misses a free throw or doesn't have a great impact on the game, especially since he is already in starting Euroleague games. I just hope he has a smooth start in the NBA because I'm worried when players get hyped to much, even when they can without a doubt live up to it.
..why? They are literally grown men, and the best NCAA players who can't make the NBA play in Europe. So it's a league full of Europe's best adult players and the best players of the NCAA who couldnt make the NBA, and they're all older and stronger than college kids. And they are organizations that don't rotate rosters every 1-4 years. Why are you so sure about this? There is no logical reason the NCAA would be as good or better as Euroleague teams. The BEST NCAA team might be able to hang, but the vast majority of NCAA teams would get completely cooked by a Euroleague team. Bad NCAA players can't play in Euro league -- the standard of skill is too high.Second selected comment from thread:
Look at what happens when elite high school players try to play Euro (or even Australian ball a la Ferguson) instead of NCAA -- they struggle big time. Because they are playing grown men who are professional basketball players
lol..Peja was posting 10 points and 5 rebounds at age 18 in Euroleague....very similar stats to those of Doncic in Real..the difference is that noone in USA cared about european hoops back then..Peja was euroleagues top scorer at age 19 and still got drafted out of top 10 and Kings fans were booing the selection..it was just a different period.
Jokic, a budding NBA superstar, was drafted in the second round. Same with Marc Gasol and Willy Hernangomez, who is doing very well for us. Add in Nurkic, Saric, Porzingis, Gobert, Giannis, Vucevic, Mirotic, Abrines, Zipser, Bojan Bogdanovic, his countryman Goran Dragic (the latter four also 2nd rounders)... looking at the drafts the past few years it's often that Euro prospects outperform their draft position. There are a few busts but a ton of American busts as well, it is often safer to draft established euros. Hezonja was not particularly established when he came over and most of the hype was from his athleticism (also like Jan Vesely)
yes
but in my opinion of Jokic is that he is the type of guy who won't get much better than what he is right now already which is very good but I don't see Jokic making huge improvements that will make him a MVP candidate.
Doncic is the best European prospect I have seen in the last 30 years.
The 4 game Euro hype for Doncic is reaching the Giannis MVP hype level.[That comment comes a couple of months after Giannis won MIP lol]
Its pretty easy for me to say Doncic at this point. I like MPJ but i think people overrate him a little bit. He's really good, but he isnt all there yet with his game, still needs to get a lot better off the dribble. He could surprise me this year but as of now that's where im at with him.
Doncic on the other hand, wow. He's 6'8 and has a point guard handle and vision, plus patience. With all the more reps he gets with NBA trainers, he'll be one of the 5-10 best ball handlers to go with his big body. He'll be able to get wherever he wants to get to because of those two things, and then he's extremely smart and creative from there
https://youtu.be/vbfuW2KBMc8 (16/9/6)
Think a Larry Bird style game as a 2/3 (that can play the 1) instead of a 3/4. And if Larry didnt play in the 80's but was a kid in 2017. That kind of patience and willingness to make ballsy plays, make crazy shots (not Larry Bird level).
I think he'll be an NBA superstar or at the very least, a very quality (2nd-4th) starter on all 30 teams.
It is Simmons.Another said:
Euroleague is hella overrated. Obviously the competition is better because the players are older and play basketball for a living, compared to the NCAA where 90% of student-athletes and are playing for a free degree.
But all of that is moot when you factor in the gap in athleticism. There are tons of players who dominated Euroleague - Saric was unanimously voted best foreign prospect 2 years in a row.
Just look at the past MVPs - Sergio Llull, de Colo, Bjelica, Sergio Rodriguez, etc. What did they do in the NBA? Bjelina is at the end of the Timberwolves bench even though they've been desperate for big man depth. Sergio Rodriguez lost his starting spot to a sophomore TJ McConnell. They struggle creating shots against NBA level defenders and are sieves defensively.
I won't crown Doncic until I see him do it against NBA-level athletes. There was never any doubt that Simmons could compete against NBA athletes, because he was an NBA-level athlete.
Luka is a much better player than Simmons at the same age. Do people not realize what he's doing at the Eurobasket level at Age 18?
24.0 PPG 65.4% 2PT 43.5% 3PT 88.9% FT 6.8 RPG 3.8 APG 1.3 SPG 6.8 FRV 32.3 EFF 27.1 MPG
Its four games in but he's playing on an elite Euroleague team against the best competition in the world outside of the NBA. Simmons wasn't nearly as good in college, which is a step down from Euroleague.
Now, Simmons obviously is blessed with an insane size, athleticism, and fluidity package so you can argue he's the better prospect (I would disagree but I respect the take). But its time people started getting serious about how good Luka Doncic is. He's a prodigy. I don't think there's ever been a European prospect as good. He's certainly at least on the same tier as a prospect as Simmons, if not better.
A lot of the top prospects have been labeled as such before they even entered college and simply played a year because they had to. Just because Bagley hasn't played college yet doesn't mean scouts don't have an idea of what kind of player this his.
Some other prospects that come to mind who were similarly hyped: John Wall, Lonzo Ball, Anthony Davis, Derek Rose, Dwight Howard, Kyrie Irving, Andrew Wiggins, Ben Simmons, Lebron James, All these guys were being considered as a #1 draft pick well before they entered college. As for the two players, I can't say as much about Porter since I haven't seen him play, but I've seen a lot of Doncic and Bagley. My basic scouting report on the two from what I've seen
Doncic is way more polished as a player and his feel for the game reminds me a little of Lonzo but he is nowhere near the athlete that Bagley is. Doncic is a better passer and facilitator and has a nice looking jump shot. Whether or not he'll be able to have the strength to absorb frequent contact (whether its being bullied off screens or driving to the hoop) is still a question, but he's obviously very young.
Bagley has one of the most unique physical skillsets I've seen. KD kind of height and very nice handle but better built to play down low. Bagley's shot isn't anywhere near as good as KD but he has a nice stroke from the games I've seen him in. If I were picking a team right now, I'd base way more of the decision on who my other personnel were because there is no clear cut top prospect at this point imho.
If you used the "best player in the 2nd best league in the world" argument to advocate for Luka Doncic, you can't suddenly think this doesn't matter and we should evaluate based on skill set rather than what he is doing against lesser competition.
Margin trading refers to the practice of using borrowed funds from a broker to trade a financial asset, which forms the collateral for the loan from the broker. Trading on margin is very risky and can deplete your account quickly if not managed correctly. Risk management is an important part of trading but even more so when using margin. Make sure to always protect your positions with stop orders! Recent Posts. Year Over Year (YOY): What it is and How it Works. The benefits of margin. When margin is used for investing purposes, it can magnify your profits, but it can also magnify your losses. Here’s a hypothetical example that demonstrates the upside; for simplicity, we’ll ignore trading fees and taxes. Assume you spend $5,000 cash to buy 100 shares of a $50 stock. Margin Allows investors to buy securities by borrowing money from a broker. The margin is the difference between the market value of a stock and the loan a broker makes. Related: Security deposit (initial). In the context of hedging and futures contracts, the cash collateral deposited with a trader or exchanged as insurance against default. Margin 1 Margin means buying securities, such as stocks, by using funds you borrow from your broker. Buying stock on margin is similar to buying a house with a mortgage. If you buy a house at a purchase price of $100,000 and put 10 percent down, your equity (the part you own) is $10,000, and you borrow the remaining $90,000 with a mortgage.
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